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	<title>Comments on: Master Mind Discussing Illinois Land Trusts with David Henderson</title>
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		<title>By: Tbird</title>
		<link>http://thinktankinvesting.com/master-mind-discussing-illinois-land-trusts-with-david-henderson/comment-page-1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Tbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments. Very interesting to see so many different opinions on the Trusts. I do have another question however. Are there different types of Trusts that accomplish this same thing? For example: there are Illinois Land Trusts and there are Massachusetts Land Trusts etc. What is your take on this or which is best to use for this purpose?&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments. Very interesting to see so many different opinions on the Trusts. I do have another question however. Are there different types of Trusts that accomplish this same thing? For example: there are Illinois Land Trusts and there are Massachusetts Land Trusts etc. What is your take on this or which is best to use for this purpose?<br />Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Rithban Kirda</title>
		<link>http://thinktankinvesting.com/master-mind-discussing-illinois-land-trusts-with-david-henderson/comment-page-1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Rithban Kirda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Corey:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You&#039;re right that anonymity is not necessarily the biggest priority. It is an important strategy in discouraging opportunistic lawyers, but creating a legal &quot;lock box&quot; that shields the property is much more desirable. Control without ownership leaves the property safe. Trust documents that lay out the deal ahead of time (i.e. no executory contracts) ensures that if people go sour the deal won&#039;t end up squabbling before a judge. There are other benefits. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, Randy&#039;s assertion about loss of control is incorrect. Only a fool would turn CONTROL over to a third party. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With a corporate trustee (whose only business is holding title, and knows the legal ins and outs) privacy is maximized. It will take time in court convincing a judge to issue an order to have the trustee reveal anything. A good trustee will make them burn a lot of time and money annoying a judge. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The plaintiff has to answer the question, &quot;What&#039;s your beef with the owner of the property?&quot; which is a big hurdle. Their beef is with people who lease the property or who are beneficiaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Corey:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right that anonymity is not necessarily the biggest priority. It is an important strategy in discouraging opportunistic lawyers, but creating a legal &#8220;lock box&#8221; that shields the property is much more desirable. Control without ownership leaves the property safe. Trust documents that lay out the deal ahead of time (i.e. no executory contracts) ensures that if people go sour the deal won&#8217;t end up squabbling before a judge. There are other benefits. </p>
<p>However, Randy&#8217;s assertion about loss of control is incorrect. Only a fool would turn CONTROL over to a third party. </p>
<p>With a corporate trustee (whose only business is holding title, and knows the legal ins and outs) privacy is maximized. It will take time in court convincing a judge to issue an order to have the trustee reveal anything. A good trustee will make them burn a lot of time and money annoying a judge. </p>
<p>The plaintiff has to answer the question, &#8220;What&#8217;s your beef with the owner of the property?&#8221; which is a big hurdle. Their beef is with people who lease the property or who are beneficiaries.</p>
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		<title>By: Rithban Kirda</title>
		<link>http://thinktankinvesting.com/master-mind-discussing-illinois-land-trusts-with-david-henderson/comment-page-1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Rithban Kirda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, it&#039;s Randy the &quot;expert&quot; again. You keep popping up with your faulty home study course. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Nowhere does it say to have the *title company* set up and administer the trust. It&#039;s only involved to ensure that the transfer of property is 100% kosher. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Administering the trust yourself itself sets yourself up for trouble as you&#039;ve created a trust that can easily be delared dry. Use a beneficiary-directed trust with a corporate trustee that holds title to keep everything 100% kosher. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In a beneficiary-directed trust, you&#039;ve given up ZERO control to the trustee. In fact, the trustee has ZERO control. The corporate trustee only holds legal title, shielding the property from judgements, liens, etc. giving the beneficiaries personal property interest rather than real property; specifically the beneficiaries only have beneficial interest. A corporate trusteee doesn&#039;t die, taking the property into probate. The corporate trustee isn&#039;t available to be sued, with the property at risk of being an asset the courts can take. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;John&#039;s correct about land trusts blowing up because people thought they&#039;d shortcut the process and go &quot;on the cheap&quot;. This opens oneself up to risk. Do it &quot;exactly right&quot; and remove the risk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, it&#8217;s Randy the &#8220;expert&#8221; again. You keep popping up with your faulty home study course. </p>
<p>Nowhere does it say to have the *title company* set up and administer the trust. It&#8217;s only involved to ensure that the transfer of property is 100% kosher. </p>
<p>Administering the trust yourself itself sets yourself up for trouble as you&#8217;ve created a trust that can easily be delared dry. Use a beneficiary-directed trust with a corporate trustee that holds title to keep everything 100% kosher. </p>
<p>In a beneficiary-directed trust, you&#8217;ve given up ZERO control to the trustee. In fact, the trustee has ZERO control. The corporate trustee only holds legal title, shielding the property from judgements, liens, etc. giving the beneficiaries personal property interest rather than real property; specifically the beneficiaries only have beneficial interest. A corporate trusteee doesn&#8217;t die, taking the property into probate. The corporate trustee isn&#8217;t available to be sued, with the property at risk of being an asset the courts can take. </p>
<p>John&#8217;s correct about land trusts blowing up because people thought they&#8217;d shortcut the process and go &#8220;on the cheap&#8221;. This opens oneself up to risk. Do it &#8220;exactly right&#8221; and remove the risk.</p>
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		<title>By: John Acquisto</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Acquisto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the courses for land trusts where you set up a friend or relative as your trustee.  It&#039;s cheap and works great until theirs a problem and your trustee/brother-in-law says something they are not supposed to and your trust is broken   I&#039;ll pay for a trustee that knows what he should say/must say or can&#039;t say.  You may have read where a person who did that was fined $250,000 and had to return all of the properties.  The state attorney general (I think North Carolina) said had they used a corporate trustee, they would have been fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the courses for land trusts where you set up a friend or relative as your trustee.  It&#8217;s cheap and works great until theirs a problem and your trustee/brother-in-law says something they are not supposed to and your trust is broken   I&#8217;ll pay for a trustee that knows what he should say/must say or can&#8217;t say.  You may have read where a person who did that was fined $250,000 and had to return all of the properties.  The state attorney general (I think North Carolina) said had they used a corporate trustee, they would have been fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But for controlling multiple properties as an investor, in this case, anonymity is NOT the biggest priority.....?correct?&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!&lt;br/&gt;Corey of Project Liberty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But for controlling multiple properties as an investor, in this case, anonymity is NOT the biggest priority&#8230;..?correct?<br />Thanks!<br />Corey of Project Liberty</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with every point you made above except with reference to having the title co. set up and administer your land trust. One of the biggest reasons people use a land trust is for privacy. You will lose that privacy when you yield control to the title co. Everyone can learn to set up and administer their own land trusts with the proper home study course on land trusts.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Randy Hughes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with every point you made above except with reference to having the title co. set up and administer your land trust. One of the biggest reasons people use a land trust is for privacy. You will lose that privacy when you yield control to the title co. Everyone can learn to set up and administer their own land trusts with the proper home study course on land trusts.</p>
<p>Randy Hughes</p>
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